Blog 20150827
With regard to Blog 20150819, Bill
Westmiller writes:
BW: A good response and explanation of
the speed variance, but I'll take exception to one of your statements:
GB: "Sound, like light, does not have mass ..."
BW: While it is true that sound is a characteristic of the medium, so has no inherent mass, the kinetic energy is passed from one molecule of air to another. It is the mass of that molecule that determines the speed of the sound, so there is always kinetic energy (and therefore, mass) engaged in the process.
Light, IF it is considered a wave, must also be passing kinetic energy from one "molecule" of the "aether medium" to another. Therefore, that medium must have mass and motion. Unlike air, no massive aether "molecule" has ever been detected in any light experiment.
GB: "Sound, like light, does not have mass ..."
BW: While it is true that sound is a characteristic of the medium, so has no inherent mass, the kinetic energy is passed from one molecule of air to another. It is the mass of that molecule that determines the speed of the sound, so there is always kinetic energy (and therefore, mass) engaged in the process.
Light, IF it is considered a wave, must also be passing kinetic energy from one "molecule" of the "aether medium" to another. Therefore, that medium must have mass and motion. Unlike air, no massive aether "molecule" has ever been detected in any light experiment.
[GB: I beg to differ. All the
particles that we consider “molecules” are enormous complexes of aether
particles, which, when they are not complexed, produce gravitation as well as
the medium for light.[1]
The MM87[2]
experiment was looking for a “fixed aether,” which is philosophically
impossible per the Fourth
Assumption of Science, inseparability (Just as there is no motion without matter, so there is no matter
without motion). There are plenty of experiments supporting the existence of aether,
with the Sagnac experiment being perhaps the most famous.[3]
Measurement of the mass of individual aether particles has an inherent
difficulty because we generally use aether particles (in the form of
gravitation) to measure mass. With all things in the
universe being infinitely subdividable, this problem will always be with us. To
measure the mass of aether-1 particles directly, we would need to
use aether-2 particles. I doubt if that will ever
happen. Elsewhere, I speculate that calculations that use Planck’s
constant can be used indirectly to obtain the mass of the aether particle (10-47 g).]
BW: It was that experimental failure
that required the invocation of arbitrary Lorentz Transformations to explain
how light could still be a wave, but aether mass could never be detected. That,
in turn, led to the "bedeviling petard" of Special Relativity.
However, there are a multitude of experiments which demonstrate that light is some kind of massive particle with motion, including the home novelty radiometer with four vanes that rotate when exposed to light:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/radiometer
However, there are a multitude of experiments which demonstrate that light is some kind of massive particle with motion, including the home novelty radiometer with four vanes that rotate when exposed to light:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/radiometer
[GB: This gadget gets its motion from
the impacts of aether particles in the same way that the impacts of water
molecules can knock you down at the beach.]
BW: Einstein's only saving grace was his mathematical formulation describing Hertz's "photoelectric effect" (which got Albert his only Nobel Prize). That doesn't work unless light is a massive particle (photon) in motion, independent of any medium.
BW: Einstein's only saving grace was his mathematical formulation describing Hertz's "photoelectric effect" (which got Albert his only Nobel Prize). That doesn't work unless light is a massive particle (photon) in motion, independent of any medium.
[GB: The photo electric effect that
you mentioned is another proof that the light is simply the motion of particles
in the medium we call aether. The PE effect results when one of these particles
collides with baryonic matter in such a way that we can detect it. This is
analogous to the collision that occurs when nitrogen and oxygen molecules in
the atmosphere hit your ear drum, allowing you to sense the effect as the
motion we call sound.
Light is not “some kind of massive
particle with motion,” in the same way that sound is not “some kind of massive
particle with motion.” The confusion stems from the inability of some folks to
distinguish the difference between matter and motion. Some, like Captain Bligh,
apparently will never get over it.]
BW: Of course, that doesn't explain what kind of particle or groups of particles compose the mass of light, nor what proper motion they include. I'm working on that.
[GB: Sorry, but light, like all other
motions, does not have mass. As with all wave motion, only the particles
through which light waves travel have mass. Sound and water waves are motions
in the atmosphere and in the ocean. Those motions do not have mass—only the
individual particles (nitrogen and water molecules) have mass. Although this is
quite simple, the contrary belief is so deeply rooted that it
has become second nature to us. It amounts to the “soul”
of regressive physics.]
[1] Borchardt, Glenn, and Puetz, Stephen J., 2012,
Neomechanical gravitation theory, in Volk, G., ed., Proceedings of the
Natural Philosophy Alliance, 19th Conference of the NPA, 25-28 July:
Albuquerque, NM, Natural Philosophy Alliance, Mt. Airy, MD, p. 53-58. [
http://www.worldsci.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_6529.pdf]
[2] Michelson, A.A., and Morley, E.W., 1887, On the
relative motion of the earth and the luminiferous ether: American Journal of
Science, v. 39, p. 333-345.
[3] Sagnac, Georges, 1913a, The demonstration of the
luminiferous aether by an interferometer in uniform rotation: Comptes Rendus,
v. 157, p. 708–710.
---,
1913b, On the proof of the reality of the luminiferous aether by the experiment
with a rotating interferometer: Comptes Rendus, v. 157, p. 1410–1413.
5 comments:
BW: …………..However, there are a multitude of experiments which demonstrate that light is some kind of massive particle with motion, including the home novelty radiometer with four vanes that rotate when exposed to light:
{BC: When photons hit vanes K.E. is instantly converted to mass. Although mass is made up from field wave like energy it still packs a punch, an energy punch, not a particle punch.}
[GB: I beg to differ. All the particles that we consider “molecules” are enormous complexes of aether particles, which, when they are not complexed, produce gravitation as well as the medium for light.[1]The MM87[2]experiment was looking for a “fixed aether,” which is philosophically impossible per the Fourth Assumption of Science, inseparability (Just as there is no motion without matter, so there is no matter without motion). There are plenty of experiments proving the existence of aether, with the Sagnac experiment being perhaps the most famous.]
{BC: ether is not particles, it is wave like energy. The ether IS the field. Not sure what M and M thought they were looking for. Particles probably.}
GB:…Light is not “some kind of massive particle with motion,” in the same way that sound is not “some kind of massive particle with motion.” The confusion stems from the inability of some folks to distinguish the difference between matter and motion. Some, like Captain Bligh, apparently will never get over it.]
{BC: If according to inseparability there is no motion without matter or matter without motion, it would be hard to distinguish between the two. Why do you claim it is so, and deride my field view which does unite matter and motion; if you want to use those terms. If, the infinitely oscillating fundamental field is equivalent to matter and motion why do you still use micro particles at 10^-48 gms as a foundational particle? Particles arise in a field, not the other way around? That is an artifact of left over Newtonian thinking.}
BW: …………..However, there are a multitude of experiments which demonstrate that light is some kind of massive particle with motion, including the home novelty radiometer with four vanes that rotate when exposed to light:
{BC: When photons hit vanes K.E. is instantly converted to mass. Although mass is made up from field wave like energy it still packs a punch, an energy punch, not a particle punch.}
[GB: I beg to differ. All the particles that we consider “molecules” are enormous complexes of aether particles, which, when they are not complexed, produce gravitation as well as the medium for light.[1]The MM87[2]experiment was looking for a “fixed aether,” which is philosophically impossible per the Fourth Assumption of Science, inseparability (Just as there is no motion without matter, so there is no matter without motion). There are plenty of experiments proving the existence of aether, with the Sagnac experiment being perhaps the most famous.]
{BC: ether is not particles, it is wave like energy. The ether IS the field. Not sure what M and M thought they were looking for. Particles probably.}
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