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Blog 20210412 Paralogists and Immaterialism
Here
is a question from someone who understandably wishes to remain anonymous due to
religious persecution:
“Hi,
Glenn. I just purchased your latest
book, Religious Roots of Relativity.
I’ve been confused about the concept of Immateriality and religious
beliefs for some time. Every religious
person whom I’ve ever spoken with has conveyed that they think the earth will
still exist after they are dead. They
think that they have a soul that is going to be hanging-out in an invisible
realm somewhere in the Ether (“another dimension”). However, the concept of Immateriality
suggests that everything for a person ceases to exist after they cease to
exist, as if reality itself were just a dream that has come to an end. What am I not understanding?”
[GB:
Thanks for the question. Unfortunately, you are supposed to be confused. That
is the nature of the determinism-indeterminism (science vs. religion)
struggle. The religious side is based on
paralogistics, a word that I just came across on the AAAS website. To be
paralogical means to have the opposite
of a logical train of thought—fallacious reasoning, which generally is based on
erroneous assumptions and the misinterpretation of data, should there be any. Thus,
a paralogist is one whose thinking is outside of logic. This is how you
pronounce that word: per ral' agist. Some would call that type
of thinking “illogical,” but what would you call the perpetrator? “Illogist: is
not in the dictionary, so I like paralogist. My new motto is: “Always
debate a paralogist any chance you get—someone logical might be listening.”
So
much for the paralogical lecture…
Immaterialism may be the preeminent paralogism. The universe obviously consists of material things.
As infants, we gradually learn that after we take the proverbial blanket off
our heads and inevitably discover object permanence. The solipsistic tendency usually
disappears as we age, become educated, and discover we are not the only things
in the universe. Immaterialism is the religious opposite of the First
Assumption of Science, materialism (The external world exists after the observer does not). Because immaterialism
and materialism are fundamental
assumptions, I have stated them in their most extreme forms. The most extreme
proponent of immaterialism was Bishop Berkeley, who claimed that when he
left the room, the chair he was sitting on disappeared merely because he
could no longer see it. Gladly, your friends have left that stage of
development. Unfortunately, most folks are still religious and retain vestiges
of immaterialism in hypothesizing some future immaterial existence in an
immaterial realm for which there is no material evidence. This is typical of
paralogists, who tend to replace logic with emotion. They might even realize
their logic is fallacious, but they still want to believe it. Who doesn’t want
to live forever?
As
I showed in "Religious Roots of Relativity," we all have trouble
distinguishing between what is material and what is immaterial. Material things
are XYZ portions of the universe, while their motions are not. We can dream of
things that cannot possibly exist and of things that do exist. The brain is
material, but thinking is motion. Time does not exist—it occurs.
Finally,
your puzzlement is nicely expressed when you wrote: “…the concept of
Immateriality suggests that everything for a person ceases to exist after they
cease to exist, as if reality itself were just a dream that has come to an end.”
Of course, that is true for materialism as well. Many is the time I have been amazed by the existence of the
universe and even more so by its infinite nature.
Also
of course, while we are alive, reality is not a dream, just as it is not a
dream when we are dead. For now, we must make a choice between that reality supported
by the scientific assumption of materialism and the dreams and imaginings supported by the religious assumption of immaterialism.
If we want to understand the universe, we must choose materialism. That is not merely the
scientific way, it is the logical way.
Again,
logical thinking requires an understanding of our most fundamental assumptions.
Because the universe is infinite, we cannot provide a complete proof of any of
them. Each has an opposite, which is correct if the first is incorrect. When we
hold more than one fundamental assumption, all the others must be consupponible,
that is, they must not contradict one another. Regressive physicists, having
made their fiduciary compromise with religion, dare not follow their paralogic
to its roots therein. That is why "The Ten Assumptions of Science" is
a landmark in scientific philosophy.
The
recent decline of the US has exposed the paralogistics that was there all
along. Fundamental defects in our thinking have come to the fore. Once again,
we must make life and death choices, not merely choices between some hair-brained
“physical” theories. Anon, it is extremely important that
we discard immaterialism, assume materialism, and get back to work forthwith.]
5 comments:
You say that materialism means:
"The external world exists after the observer does not"
Obviously dualists hold this too, and arguably even immaterialists do as well depending how one defines "external world". It's not as if immaterialists think that reality simply disappears when one dies.
It's also worth noting that modern thinking holds that colours, odours, sounds and all other qualitative features are held to be entirely absent from the external world. This leaves the material consciousness-independent world a bare skeletal denuded abstraction characterised entirely by structure, a far cry from what our perceptions tell us and what common-sense holds. Immaterialism draws no such distinction between these so-called "secondary qualities", and the "primary qualities" i.e the quantifiable/measurable aspects of reality. So, far from the commonsensical position that people might imagine materialism to be, it is nothing of the sort.
Also science certainly doesn't depend on materialism being true. It doesn't even depend on there existing a material world at all. It depends on reality evolving according to regularities (maybe not even exceptionless regularities), and the success of science depends on these regularities being of such a character that they can be mathematically described.
Thanks Ian:
I mostly agree, but have a problem with your statement: "Also science certainly doesn't depend on materialism being true. It doesn't even depend on there existing a material world at all. It depends on reality evolving according to regularities (maybe not even exceptionless regularities), and the success of science depends on these regularities being of such a character that they can be mathematically described."
[GB: I find your first sentence to be quite absurd. I don't know what could be studied if there wasn't a material world. You seem to be ignoring matter and overemphasizing motion. Perhaps that is why you think there would be no science without math. That is not true. For instance, we do earth science all the time without requiring mathematics. We often use math, but it is not always necessary. Many other scientific disciplines are like that. Math is wonderful, but it is not a panacea, with relativity and cosmogony being the best examples of its failures.]
Thanks for your response. I mostly had in mind physics, which other sciences are supposed to be able to be reduced to.
Science works. Hence, if immaterialism is correct, then science cannot depend on there existing a material world. More generally, science does not depend on our metaphysical presuppositions. I have written a short blog piece on Berkeley's immaterialism (also called subjective idealism)
http://ian-wardell.blogspot.com/2014/03/a-very-brief-introduction-to-subjective.html
Ian:
Sorry, but your statement that "science does not depend on our metaphysical presuppositions" is false. For instance, folks cannot be scientists unless they assume "there are causes for all effects." That is a metaphysical presupposition because it goes "beyond physics." We will never be able to completely prove that assumption, but without it, we could not do science.
Hi Glenn, I'm not sure how to respond to this.
a) You make an unsubstantiated assertion.
b) An unsubstantiated assertion moreover that is transparently false.
This is the problem with the world.
Berkeley's metaphysic rejects physical causation altogether, only mental causation exists. There is no need to posit physical causation at all. You are just simply not correct and I'm not wasting any more of my time with you.
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